请教brd 转hyp问题

wowo1215

我用的是Hyperlynx 8.0版，点File-->New Board(Run PCB Translator) 可以把brd转成hyp，但是会丢失信息，有的net变成unroute net了。 我如果用allegro的extract 命令行，生成了9个txt文件＋1个a_b文件，就是没有hyp文件。
请大侠指教啊。

ilovechina

From my personal experiences,
3 p* z) H2 K, |- R$ I$ t' G! R4 t0 eI do NOT  really trust the HyperLynx built-in automatic converter (directly *.brd to *.hyp). So, when the converting fails or show error, try not  using HyperLynx built-in automatically converting with Allegro *.brd file, manually use command line (by using extracta.exe) to create *.a_c file, then loading *.a_c file to convert to *.hyp.
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You may try this way.
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assuming:
' P8 H: x  m' g$ J7 Q/ h/ U(1) convert "R0A.brd" to "R0A.hyp"
2 S, F. o% U/ [1 _  z3 y(2) You may find "extracta.exe" in "X:\cadence\spb_16.2\tools\pcb\bin" directory
(3) you may find "hyp.txt" in HyperLynx installed directory.

9 F  F2 U$ L% ?/ J' y( [/ K' g+ [% a#1: execute  the following command in XP command prompt
->extracta.exe R0A.brd hyp.txt R0A.a_l R0A.a_o R0A.a_c
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; X* Y3 a# y4 y" eIt will generate three Allegro ascii files:
(1) Component & connectivity data (a_c)  => we need this ONLY.
(2) Layout data (a_l)
(3) Outline data (a_o)

#2: run HyperLynx program and File->Translate PCB to BoardSim Board -> Cadence Allegro (*.A_C,*.brd), then Load "R0A.a_c"
It will create the "R0A.hyp" file
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# n/ a( n  X; ?/ l! SDone !
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/ y+ l' E3 Y4 U2 {, vI hope it will help !

wowo1215

感谢Ilovechina的详细解答。
实际上，我如果用Allegro的extract 命令行，生成了9个txt文件＋1个a_b文件，我把这个a_b文件用hyperlynx转换跟直接转brd结果是一样的，还是好多net的信息会丢掉，尤其是小的net或者表层的thermal relief。 不知道有没有什么好的办法？

rx_78gp02a

brd还是用allegro的sq比较好吧！

ilovechina

Do you really execute this same command word by word except for file name ??
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#1: execute  the following command in XP command prompt
, R8 }$ T4 L' C9 }8 z, W->extracta.exe R0A.brd hyp.txt R0A.a_l R0A.a_o R0A.a_c
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if you execute the same command, except for file name, I do not see how it could create  nine txt file, plus *.a_b file (what is that ??)

why not copy your brd file + hyp.txt to allegro extracta.exe directory ("X:\cadence\spb_16.2\tools\pcb\bin") and execute #1 command to see if it create those three files or not ?? (I bet it will unless there is error at brd file)


The Cadence Allegro(extracta.exe) must generate those *.a_c, *.a_l and *.a_o files for interfacing with HyperLynx.
6 e4 T8 J9 i2 _Please refer the document I posted at https://www.eda365.com/thread-22898-1-1.html
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, C2 f6 o* a3 h4 BIf you can not create those three files, there is something wrong at Allegro side,
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$ l4 g. b% j" D" q* _) p' r5 TThe following is the R0A.log that HyperLynx program created when I successfully finished the conversion.


-------------------------------R0A.log----------------------------------

% K" `3 A4 W$ I" ^Allegro2hyp: 7.7.33
; y! x0 D0 ^# }- GCopyright Mentor Graphics Corporation 2006. All Rights Reserved.
Translating files:
: Y, N4 f5 Y7 N) Q' w' i1 U8 x    F:\Allegro_Works\R0A.a_c
    F:\Allegro_Works\R0A.a_l
    F:\Allegro_Works\R0A.a_o
" y" H3 N9 X2 o1 S/ xUse COMP_VALUE or COMP_DEVICE_TYPE for IC names.
Allegro file translation complete,
    F:\Allegro_Works\R0A.hyp created.

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  g% r5 v2 ~: J; D' jAnd  I think you are using SPB 15.x version that are still with "extract.exe". New SPB 16.x is with "extracta.exe". They should be same as function wise. I  have another PC still installed with spb 15.5 ("extract.exe") and got the same result as SPB 16.2 ("extracta.exe")

Hope it will help and good luck !

wowo1215

再次感谢Ilovechina的详细解释。
' p0 w3 G9 G& J+ H0 c2 |; D$ Z由于我现在用的Hyperlynx的版本是8.0的，其hyp.txt文件已经升级成control_hyp.txt了，输出文件也由原来的三个增加到了十个（9个txt文件＋1个a_b文件），对板子的描述也更详细了。而这个a_b文件就相当于之前的a_c文件，确实可以从hyperlynx中直接转成.hyp文件。但是，就是转完以后会有net（或者其中一段）被漏掉。
, |- d2 A6 N" x/ E9 U: c4 G( Z不知道ilovechina手头上有没有8.0版的hyper可以试一下。或者如果你有老版的，也可以发上来，我装上再试试。

ilovechina

Someone uploaded this brd file on this web a while ago. I just use this as example.  It can be converted to Hyperlynx (v8.0) boardsim file *.hyp. The attachment is the brd & hyp.

wowo1215

7# ilovechina
" ]; q! F  {8 N; `9 o我机器上只有SPB 16.0，所以你发的这个我的allegro打不开，也就没法转了。不知道你还有没有其他转成功的，稍微复杂点儿的板子？
) U- I" U& I4 N  W. Z" PPS：我用Hyperlynx8打开你发的hyp文件的时候也会提示有unroute net。

ilovechina

The gentleman posted this brd file on 2007-08-21. If you can not read this board file, there is something wrong with your systems , NOT 16.0 or 16.2 issue.

. L/ \9 U, ^9 @, c( J  l. cThe source Link of the board is
: s8 p# [3 w6 ]9 D3 `0 t6 fhttp://www.eetop.cn/bbs/thread-74180-1-21.html
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; `) i4 J8 s! y& w+ q8 X' lThere are so many Allegro PCB brd files posted on the Websites, searching and find whatever you want !

wowo1215

我又从网上找了一块双层板，用Hyperlynx8.0直接就可以转成Hyp格式，没有出现什么问题。但是用来转我的板子（只有6层）就出问题了。哎，郁闷了。。。

zgl846

楼主辛苦喽，谢谢分享，加油啊，顶一个 bjbdf466zgl

pwj6323

如果只是做反射分析,一些不重要的线unroute应该是没有问题的.

Bern

ilovechina 发表于 2009-7-21 03:33
Someone uploaded this brd file on this web a while ago. I just use this as example.  It can be conve ...

请问，您的allegro文件，是怎么转成hyp文件的？{:soso_e122:}

278529735

ilovechina   强悍啊

yuhuikeji

非常感谢!分享！