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标题: POWER PCB轉ALLERGO的方法 [打印本页]
作者: dinodino66    时间: 2012-8-31 02:00
标题: POWER PCB轉ALLERGO的方法
請問有沒有那位高手有碰過POWER PCB轉ALLERGO{:soso_e144:}
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# U: @6 o- m0 Y$ r# Y最近收到客戶的資料不知如何是好. Q- |  C4 {4 N8 A

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作者: langexie    时间: 2012-8-31 08:23
1.从 PADS 导出 asc文件。选取 powerpcb  V5.0格式导出。将 asc文件放在你工作的目录下
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+ D- F& p( S) N" X# O$ a   第一项  PADS  ASCII  FILES 选择导出的 asc文件   
9 y4 V4 F$ m% [4 b* U7 W) t( `* p4 ]  第二项  option 选择  allegro 安装路径下的 X:\Cadence\SPB_16.X\tools\pcb\bin\pads_in.ini   执行run 就 ok ' M; W. j. h  {# h# O2 G
作者: xidgli    时间: 2012-8-31 08:43
本帖最后由 xidgli 于 2012-8-31 08:52 编辑
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langexie 发表于 2012-8-31 08:23
5 g6 e; q: U% u! d/ x$ @1.从 PADS 导出 asc文件。选取 powerpcb  V5.0格式导出。将 asc文件放在你工作的目录下 ) H2 Z: F/ o" G" [$ f  u7 s
2.在allegro菜单  ...

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5 u! V5 _' ^0 y, [( u: w你好，刚刚用您的方法试了一下，可是出现提示：unable to open log file.不知道是怎么回事？我的版本是PADS9.2。ALLEGRO版本是16.2.
作者: langexie    时间: 2012-8-31 10:49
xidgli 发表于 2012-8-31 08:43 3 W8 Y: r1 f7 H/ R
你好，刚刚用您的方法试了一下，可是出现提示：unable to open log file.不知道是怎么回事？我的版本是 ...

' p( J2 C% m& a3 [& i$ d在setup-》user preferences    在paths->library里面更改库的路径为你的工作文件夹,再试试！
作者: xidgli    时间: 2012-8-31 11:08
langexie 发表于 2012-8-31 10:49 ; q* @# f" F0 v+ S5 X: y, ^+ g, ^
在setup-》user preferences    在paths->library里面更改库的路径为你的工作文件夹,再试试！
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还是不行。
作者: mike9016    时间: 2012-8-31 11:17
版本太高，用15.5的打开试试
作者: xidgli    时间: 2012-8-31 11:48
langexie 发表于 2012-8-31 08:23
4 [% X4 g+ `- \! b1.从 PADS 导出 asc文件。选取 powerpcb  V5.0格式导出。将 asc文件放在你工作的目录下 - a4 |2 T# X; G8 \9 S
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看来这种方法是行不通的。
作者: langexie    时间: 2012-8-31 12:28
本帖最后由 langexie 于 2012-8-31 14:41 编辑 ! {% l6 d2 u3 t$ j+ X& A! F$ s
xidgli 发表于 2012-8-31 11:48
- x3 {$ O- c/ H" C/ y看来这种方法是行不通的。
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! z9 _8 v7 h$ f5 m0 C以下为Cadence，Help：
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  V0 `* R, ~; D) ^) S7 x5 Q, U% tSyntax    |    Dialog Box    |    Procedures
8 L" s- {" f% ^: i& M; j7 I# R5 L; j6 z. pThe pads in command imports information from PowerPCB and Pads Layout 2005 ASCII database files into Allegro PCB Editor board databases. It is assumed that the PADS databases being translated are completed (placed and routed).
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The PowerPCB and Pads Layout 2005 translator reads PowerPCB and Pads Layout 2005 database files and writes an Allegro PCB Editor board database. Due to format differences, other types of input files cannot be read. PowerPCB and Pads Layout 2005 can be used to convert an ASCII database file to a version 4 or 6 file. For further information on how to do this, see the PowerPCB and Pads Layout 2005 documentation.
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During translation, the Pads to Translator dialog box displays information about the translation progress. End the translation by clicking Cancel on this dialog box. All generated files write to your output directory, and you can use these temporary files for reference. You need the board file (.brd) file to edit the design. 6 _* m! c* @+ g8 V+ r
When the translation finishes, the status dialog box closes. Use File - Viewlog or File - File Viewer to open the pads_in.log file and review any errors. Also examine netin.log file for any warnings or errors. % o( o' u$ T1 @+ m" F+ |1 `
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File - Import - PADS
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  W/ @: p) ^* d" b7 X( Y# GTo translate several databases using DOS batch files, you run the PADS translator in batch mode by specifying all required information on the command line.
" n$ q) m! [2 s, w2 E: X( aNote: Before attempting to run pads_in, export a PADS job file to a PADS ASCII database that can be read by the translator, as explained in Creating a PADS ASCII Database File.
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3 k6 u' j& T3 Q2 X/ }& r$ O  B$ d* Z8 |If you run pads_in (note the underscore) at the operating system prompt without specifying arguments, a dialog box appears, prompting you for the data listed above. For details, see Importing a PADS Database in Batch Mode.
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5 v" V& `, k4 C% dUse this dialog box to convert PADS database information.
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Specifies the full path and name of the PADS ASCII database file.
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Searches for the required files on your system.
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" r5 |. l9 g, A( oContinues with the translation 3 {! x  Y- g: X; |! X( P) }

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* @$ r" |$ R! S( qThese procedures describe converting a PADs database to a board/substrate file.
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2 [1 g0 T9 h) N7 sThe PADS job file must be converted to a PADS ASCII database that the translator can read. This file contains all decal, part type, part, signal, route, and graphic data from the job file. An ASCII database is self-contained and does not require any information from PADS library files.
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Re-pour all copper pour areas (if any).
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+ l. M6 ?, _) w4 z: q5 fClick In/Out, then ASCII OUT to display the ASCII OUT form.
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8 K: ~$ Y/ A' ]/ \& f2 bChoose the All option to output all data in the database. Choose this option only if you want to translate the complete database.% S' c0 |' r! I# o/ _+ Y3 _+ s- I6 |

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3 P& \0 F4 h& C8 j9 H, W$ bChoose the Convert miters to lines option to convert any route miters to lines (or arcs). If you do not choose this option, miters are not converted., O/ x2 V+ o6 l7 @, V

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( X/ J: q( |- bSpecify the output file name and click OK.
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Importing a PADS Database in Interactive Mode
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' _$ r' Y$ N! Z( D  v1 D5 |; c8 H$ eThe PADS IN dialog box displays. / l- y) X$ S- R; ]# H7 k4 {

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Enter the PADS ASCII file to translate in the PADS ASCII Input File box. Use the Browse button to locate the file if necessary.) C6 c3 l1 K' A' q2 s

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0 P5 f) k. d' DEnter the full path and name of an options (.ini) file in the Options File box. The translator saves all options in this file, which can be used for later translations of the same or different ASCII files. 8 S& v+ O& }6 }  _, v& Q  X
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6 O% K% w9 |! uEnter the output file name in the Output Design box. By default, this box contains the path to your current working directory where the output file is stored9 O! R& C2 k) E. Y9 I5 a3 t* ?2 w9 H

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This section describes the procedure for running pads_in from the operating system prompt when you do not qualify the command with arguments. 4 u) p; v' s/ t# Z3 b/ M
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: {7 w- j+ s+ `1 p% Y) pEnter a directory to which to write the output file in the Output Directory field. Use the Browse button to locate the directory if necessary.
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  t+ `% V* I" k+ o9 D6 W0 Q  LEnter the full path to an options file in the Options File field. Use the Browse button to locate the file if necessary.
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Pads_in reads the input file and determines the number of etch/conductor layers it uses. If all required program arguments are not specified, the PADS to Allegro Translation Options dialog box appears. : D2 C9 D3 i* G# E- D. D* K
The PADS To Allegro Layer Mapping fields define the element-layer mappings. The list box contains all PADS objects (Lines, Copper, Text, Decals, Pads and Vias) and the name of the class and subclass to which to map the objects. Each element appears once for each PADS layer, for a total of 31 entries per element.
! a" J2 B  m) e4 JAll 2-D lines on PADS layer 0 map (are added) to the BOARD/SUBSTRATE GEOMETRY class and the subclass ALL, which is not pre-defined. Lines on PADS layer 1 map to the ETCH/CONDUCTOR class and the subclass TOP/SURFACE and so on. The translator presets all necessary ETCH/CONDUCTOR class mappings by default, even if a previous translation created the options file. This is also true during batch translations.
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  U+ b8 q( k( d3 qChoose Create solder layers to create solder mask and solder paste padstack layer entries.
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( L" N  O( B# G* u7 g5 t# o. TAll non-zero sized pad entries are copied, and the oversize radius added to the pad entry size. For example, if the oversize is 15, a 60-mil pad generates a 75-mil solder mask and paste layer entry. The solder mask pad layer entry is added to the SOLDERMASK_TOP subclass, and the solder paste entry is added to the PASTEMASK_TOP subclass.
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Choose Create Dynamic Shapes if you want the translator to create dynamic shapes from POUROUT and HATOUT pieces from the *POUR* section. For more information on dynamic shapes, see Preparing for Layout in the user guide.
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Editing the Database After Importing PADS Data
  Q( q) w& n6 a7 ^6 H. P! s, eAfter the PADS or PCAD translation finishes, load the board/substrate file into the editor. To create a design that can be maintained completely within the editor, follow these steps:
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: H, z, s% n& H9 S" i0 rRun viewlog to display the translators' log file. Examine the file for any errors or warnings. Also examine netin.log file for any warnings or errors.$ Y( n6 |  Y# w6 {# E! g, q: _

8 P- j* n* g& z' iNote: The log files are pads_in.log and pcad_in.log.
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Click Yes in the confirmation box, and click Apply on the Color/Visibility dialog box.
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Ratsnest in the Display group
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! R' q; v: }# ~# }Choose Setup - Design Parameters (prmed command) to display the Design Parameter Editor.
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Verify the keepin/keepout areas. (The translator creates placement keepouts for all package/part symbols based on the boundaries of objects found within the PADS decal.); P2 B' V5 U1 N- D9 q2 G
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The translator also adds an anti-pad and thermal-relief layer entries to padstacks. Thermal reliefs are a flash with the same name as the pad. You may modify these settings. The translator determines the size of anti-pads using the COPPOURSPACE parameter in the *PCB* section of the ASCII file. Any oval or rectangular finger pad entries convert to shapes in the design database because PADS allows ovals and fingers to be rotated within a padstack.
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作者: xidgli    时间: 2012-8-31 12:45
langexie 发表于 2012-8-31 12:28
% k' |2 }$ s  I. ^: U" }7 i; R" V# `4 }% ~自己好好看看Cadence，Help：
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多谢指点，但是也太多了吧，而且本人英语水平也不咋地。
作者: JIMDENG    时间: 2012-8-31 13:15
本帖最后由 JIMDENG 于 2012-8-31 17:56 编辑   v! }* ^$ y! ?- b% u- {3 Y
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学习一下
作者: JIMDENG    时间: 2012-8-31 13:16
本帖最后由 JIMDENG 于 2012-8-31 17:55 编辑 $ q2 s) [# ]1 X- d: k; B

, @' `( K) I6 W' W看明白了，这个英文说明。
作者: JIMDENG    时间: 2012-8-31 13:19
本帖最后由 JIMDENG 于 2012-8-31 17:55 编辑 * D0 o" m2 v! |( k! @

+ r9 ]9 f7 {$ ?* h) P; j谢谢！
作者: xidgli    时间: 2012-8-31 13:52
xidgli 发表于 2012-8-31 12:45 2 G* }: \2 \- ^/ g, ~, R+ F5 r
多谢指点，但是也太多了吧，而且本人英语水平也不咋地。

$ F: E* b3 W1 |1 H& e, \哪位高人指点下Allegro16.2到底怎么转呢?
作者: JIMDENG    时间: 2012-8-31 14:12
本帖最后由 JIMDENG 于 2012-8-31 17:57 编辑
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作者: nbhand    时间: 2012-8-31 14:56
langexie 兄弟已经在2L,4L给出了正解。
作者: Aubrey    时间: 2012-8-31 15:09
本帖最后由 Aubrey 于 2012-8-31 15:22 编辑 ' H& {7 [5 i/ G
xidgli 发表于 2012-8-31 08:43
+ H, c) ^9 y5 P( K! F  h你好，刚刚用您的方法试了一下，可是出现提示：unable to open log file.不知道是怎么回事？我的版本是 ...
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5，allegro中open转换好的文件
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作者: xidgli    时间: 2012-8-31 15:42
Aubrey 发表于 2012-8-31 15:09 ) J; U- s3 l* f: w5 v" I7 p
推荐另外一种方法，看图：% e. u; U2 b! I7 S; v
1先导出PADS3.0格式,
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多谢您的热心帮助，我现在找到原因了。把导出的asc文件的目录不可以有中文字符，不然就会出现unable to open log file.导致转Allegro不成功 。
作者: Aubrey    时间: 2012-8-31 16:03
xidgli 发表于 2012-8-31 15:42 , `& G5 m+ T# v
多谢您的热心帮助，我现在找到原因了。把导出的asc文件的目录不可以有中文字符，不然就会出现unable to o ...
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你这种方法更快，呵呵
作者: xidgli    时间: 2012-8-31 17:05
Aubrey 发表于 2012-8-31 16:03 3 I% _* b$ o* G$ `' o" D
你这种方法更快，呵呵

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作者: XYX365    时间: 2012-8-31 18:14
xidgli 发表于 2012-8-31 17:05
) N& W, W  l' ?' P& G就是网络名，元件编号全都没有了。不知道怎么搞啊！
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转换后的Board File 在Ref Des/Assembly_Top和Bottom层,4 \+ e; R  ]/ b+ S
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如果不是的话就无法转成Allegro的Refdes,因为有些人会将Ref.Des.建立在Silkscreen Top或Bottom,这样就会有问题.
作者: dinodino66    时间: 2012-9-2 21:53
真的很感謝大家的幫忙
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作者: xidgli    时间: 2012-9-3 08:35
本帖最后由 xidgli 于 2012-9-3 08:58 编辑 6 ]+ t$ ?& f- A; D2 y& }

5 r6 j6 e* q9 m# |0 H# Q现在ref等已经都搞好了，就是各层的铜皮怎么有两层呢？还要删除一层。还有好多导线没有连接到焊盘出现三角符号。还要一个一个重新连接。真是头大！希望高手给点指导。
作者: wolf343105    时间: 2012-9-3 08:48
langexie 发表于 2012-8-31 08:23   @4 H- G: ^7 V3 Y7 s2 ?5 {
1.从 PADS 导出 asc文件。选取 powerpcb  V5.0格式导出。将 asc文件放在你工作的目录下 , e% U" i4 U( x# Q# B
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ok.
作者: longzhiming    时间: 2012-9-3 09:13
本帖最后由 longzhiming 于 2012-9-3 09:38 编辑
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Aubrey 发表于 2012-8-31 15:09 0 |; a6 y6 C! b9 m" K2 W
推荐另外一种方法，看图：
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2,利用ALLEGRO自带工具PADS translator
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转过来带网络属性吗?不带的话基本上就废了, 记得我转时是丝印有,但没有网络.
作者: Aubrey    时间: 2012-9-3 09:36
longzhiming 发表于 2012-9-3 09:13
* H# y) ^) s9 e5 H/ O6 b转过来带网络属性吗?不带的话基本上就费了

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作者: Sharonbaiyun    时间: 2012-9-3 10:43
langexie 发表于 2012-8-31 08:23
/ U4 l3 S, L, ^1 L% @1.从 PADS 导出 asc文件。选取 powerpcb  V5.0格式导出。将 asc文件放在你工作的目录下
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$ }6 a# f- A; P6 w% v) w8 V学习学习了，谢谢



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